BACKUP ENGINE FAILSAFE

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Dave Hayfield
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BACKUP ENGINE FAILSAFE

Postby Dave Hayfield » May 22nd, 2016, 3:07 pm

The failsafe system that we use on our models is not 100% reliable. If the voltage supply to the receiver is lost then failsafe will not occur because it needs the working RX to set controls to preselected positions. If power is lost to the RX through any reason, broken connections, faulty cell, on/off switch failed etc etc. and you had been flying at full throttle, the engine would remain at full throttle (unless there was a very strong return spring on the carburretta to swing the servo arm back).
The simple circuit here provides a solution, the relay is activated by voltage to the RX and will stop the engine if volts disappear. This problem occurred with me, the model had dual receivers so I could still control it but the throttle control was on the RX that had lost power. At full throttle it was much too fast to land so a controlled 'crash' was the only answer. If this was a single RX model serious consequences could have occurred.
The components are very cheap, the 5 volt relay should have coil resistance of around 100 ohms to minimise operating current and preferably change over contacts so that it can be used with battery ignition or CD ignition (details on diagram).
There is also an additional bonus for CD ignition engines, providing the RX is switched off you can prime your engine without fear of bruised fingers when turning it over.
PS. It is imperative that the FLYBACK diode is connected the correct way round. The silver band is the end connected to positive.
The diode can be the 1N4004 or any similar type as can the PROTECTION diode which is connected the other way round to the Flyback diode and will prevent the RX from being damaged if wrong polarity is applied.
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Re: BACKUP ENGINE FAILSAFE

Postby Steve Perry » May 22nd, 2016, 5:06 pm

Your circuit is missing one component without which it has the potential to damage or kill the receiver, it needs a Flyback (or snubber) diode to dissipate the voltage generated when the relay disengages.

The bar end of the diode goes to the positive.

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Re: BACKUP ENGINE FAILSAFE

Postby Dave Hayfield » May 22nd, 2016, 9:23 pm

Hi Steve, there is usually a capacitor in the RX that will deal with this, never the less a protection diode will not go amiss. Thanks for the suggestion so have added it to the diagram, also an extra protection diode to safeguard the RX if wrong polarity is applied.
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Re: BACKUP ENGINE FAILSAFE

Postby Steve Perry » May 23rd, 2016, 10:39 pm

There will be those reading this that are unaware of how bad the flyback voltage can be.

At 5 volts, when the relay is turned off it will put a spike of aprox 50 volts at reverse polarity back through the receiver :(

Here is a nice video showing what happens at 12 volts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow-QWA6VGFE


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