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Spray painting

Posted: June 5th, 2015, 7:58 am
by richard armstrong
hi all

need some advice on painting a greenly airframe

not sure which is best to use Car paint primer water based, klass cote, etc, mix your own spray paint or buy off the shelf spray cans which at 6£ a pop for a can, may be not so cost effective, as i an buy a 1 litre acrylic primers for £20 and thin out to spray on

i have the equipment to spray large areas ie HPLV spray gun and compressor,

i was looking to purchase a airbrush for small area & detail

i thought about using my Greenly as a tester and only use 3 colour finish but get it primed for Cosford and in the air tested before finishing

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311370562747? ... EBIDX%3AIT

as the greenly has been glassed and ready for paint not sure which way to go? on the type of paint, did thing of covering but for the airframe that to expensive?

advice please?

i am not beginner when it comes to spray painting

i am also looing for a to release and bomb release as well?

Re: Spray painting

Posted: June 5th, 2015, 10:39 am
by David Jones
Hi Richard, we've tried a few systems for spray painting and the one we've decided to stick to is standard cellulose filler/primer, then matt base coat for colour, finished with a coat of lacquer, either matt, satin or gloss. These paints are all available from any automotive paint retailer, they will mix your base coat to any colour you want (a lot have spectrometers) and the paints cost a lot less than "specialist" paints. The base coat goes on a treat and it has a similar drying time to primer. You can easily spray a full model in one day.

The lacquer we use is not too fond of fuels with nitro in them so, for sports models, two pack is a way to go. This stuff is "everything" proof as far as fuels go. It goes on top of celly primer and leaves a fantastic car body finish. This has a longer drying time, but you can still finish a full model in just the one day. You can use enamel on top of it for detailing. Jonesey.

Re: Spray painting

Posted: June 5th, 2015, 11:58 am
by Cary Bailey
David Jones wrote:Hi Richard, we've tried a few systems for spray painting and the one we've decided to stick to is standard cellulose filler/primer, then matt base coat for colour, finished with a coat of lacquer, either matt, satin or gloss. These paints are all available from any automotive paint retailer, they will mix your base coat to any colour you want (a lot have spectrometers) and the paints cost a lot less than "specialist" paints. The base coat goes on a treat and it has a similar drying time to primer. You can easily spray a full model in one day.

The lacquer we use is not too fond of fuels with nitro in them so, for sports models, two pack is a way to go. This stuff is "everything" proof as far as fuels go. It goes on top of celly primer and leaves a fantastic car body finish. This has a longer drying time, but you can still finish a full model in just the one day. You can use enamel on top of it for detailing. Jonesey.

Richard +1 from me as to what Jonesy has said!
Cary

Re: Spray painting

Posted: June 5th, 2015, 2:27 pm
by Alan Cantwell 1131
Word of warning, both with celli, and in the main, 2 pack, wear the correct filter mask with celli, but on 2 pack, which is deadly if inhaled, the suggestion is use an air feed mask, aka B.A, or take a deep breath, :D our guys use 2 pac, without a rebreath mask, but wear a substantial particle filter maask, and dont stay in the booth long, i still worry about them, It often amazes me just how many modellors wear no protection, i am not a fan of sensless H&S bull, but protecting the airways, and eyes is manadatory,

Re: Spray painting

Posted: June 5th, 2015, 5:29 pm
by richard armstrong
Alan Cantwell 1131 wrote:Word of warning, both with celli, and in the main, 2 pack, wear the correct filter mask with celli, but on 2 pack, which is deadly if inhaled, the suggestion is use an air feed mask, aka B.A, or take a deep breath, :D our guys use 2 pac, without a rebreath mask, but wear a substantial particle filter maask, and dont stay in the booth long, i still worry about them, It often amazes me just how many modellors wear no protection, i am not a fan of sensless H&S bull, but protecting the airways, and eyes is manadatory,


thanks all

i no stranger to spray and powder coating, befor i got into IT i used to work for a coach painters, for about a year way back in my youth, :geek: , i learnt to spray paint and powder coat, and then safety was a second thought, but i help introduce air breathing, and heavy duty filtration so i will be building a temp spray booth and using ba gear

Re: Spray painting

Posted: June 8th, 2015, 8:42 pm
by Christopher Berry
I've always liked the Flair Spektrum paint. It goes on very well although it does break down with nitro over time.

Re: Spray painting

Posted: June 9th, 2015, 12:17 pm
by richard armstrong
whant to do the greenley as cheap as possible as i know this will end up at some pint in the deck and bin liners?, LOL :-))))))