Haydock and other events

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Haydock and other events

Postby Steve Ogden » January 10th, 2019, 11:13 am

Hi There
Is there any information regarding an event at Haydock Park and the replacement for East Kirkby?

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Re: Haydock and other events

Postby DAVE JOHNSON » January 11th, 2019, 6:13 pm

Steve---as for Haydock---yes we have had the venue on hold for some months---but after contacting a list of traders who normally support the event---it is evident they don't want to support it---so it looks like it wont happen this year---maybe next !!!

As for the East Kirkby replacement---the committee have been working hard to get a suitable replacement---and several venues have been visited----a couple of options are still ongoing but not confirmed as yet to post on here----

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Re: Haydock and other events

Postby John Evans » January 12th, 2019, 5:04 pm

re negotiate with tibenham great venue even for a long fly in

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Re: Haydock and other events

Postby James Ladell » January 13th, 2019, 10:27 pm

Hi John
Tibbenham was going to go ahead this year and I was going to run the event personally with the help of the committee and show team. But after talking to a number of traders there would of only been two who would of attended. This will not make for a good show and the decision was made to not carry on. I personally could not guarantee that a profit could of been made if we don’t get the traders at the event. Even local a company 20miles away said never again.
It troubled me greatly that it could not go ahead but if you can’t get the trade or people to attend their is no point.
As far as a Fly-in the cost is still the same as a show I have all ready asked.
James Ladell

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Re: Haydock and other events

Postby Bob Thompson1894 » January 14th, 2019, 8:27 am

This situation is only going to get worse. With the advent of the Intermess the normal traders are cut to the bone on costs in order to compete, and the thought of giving up on a weekend to stand in a (possibly cold wet and windy) field to trade looks unappetising. And, of course, pay for the privilege. Only the big shows are tempting. Not sure of the answer here, but a lot of show visitors come, at least partly, for the trade. If the trade is poor, as it has been of late, the punters will stay away.

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Re: Haydock and other events

Postby Alan Cantwell 1131 » January 14th, 2019, 10:54 am

If this is going to become a how do we get the public to a show,it needs another thread starting,

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Re: Haydock and other events

Postby Bob Thompson1894 » January 14th, 2019, 3:15 pm

Alan Cantwell 1131 wrote:If this is going to become a how do we get the public to a show,it needs another thread starting,

Think it goes together, Alan. If the punters dont want to go, then there is no show. Its no good coming up with venues if the trade cant be persuaded to come.

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Re: Haydock and other events

Postby Dave Wilshere » January 19th, 2019, 9:52 pm

The problem started with the 'desperate for business' traders who offer free shipping (a chunk of profit in some cases) where is the rational to visit a show and buy when it can be delivered to your arm chair, no petrol/entry/food costs. The internet has destroyed our business with faceless traders (some of which don't have phone numbers to call and ultimately don't offer backup and service) Basically, many customers are drawn to the lowest price and forget about back up. The internet is guilty here too, because these traders don't have to back up the product as there will be many of the answers on the internet...

The LMA support the trade more than any other show, with very reasonable costs-but even then, if you cost a show properly (many traders don't understand the difference between turnover and profit-really!!) a two day show is actually 4-5 days with the prep and pack down and again many I question don't factor that, even though the week before a show business drops dramatically, so really a show has to cover a weeks business...and the cost of the business back home, rent,rates wages etc. Again most don't do that, and overall business is down, because so much of the discounted stuff was piled up in the 'good times' and its now for-sale. The few with a desire for something new can have their itch scratched with a new/secondhand item. Its only going to get worse....

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Re: Haydock and other events

Postby David Baker » January 29th, 2019, 7:23 pm

Hi
Was an alternative venue sorted out to replace East Kirkby bank holiday weekend yet?
Need to know if there is something ASAP so holidays can be booked from work etc.
Thanks
David


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