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GLIDER FAILSAFES

Postby Alan Cantwell 1131 » May 30th, 2012, 4:26 pm

With the new 2.4 radios, its common to have even the basic reciever with a throttle failsafe, but, how should a glider be set? by its very nature, the beast will soar up, rather than down, with the over 20kg glider, there must be a way of curtailing its flight, now, i have NEVER been a fan of the hard over and in brigade, but what would you do with a glider? even a basic rudder elevators jobby?

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Re: GLIDER FAILSAFES

Postby John Greenfield » May 31st, 2012, 6:39 am

Interesting question.
Historically the preferred option is full airbrakes, flaps down or crow braking. Basically whatever is fitted that normally is used for glide angle control.
If you are flying a basic rudder / elevator model I hope it is not over 20 kg !!!

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Re: GLIDER FAILSAFES

Postby Alan Cantwell 1131 » May 31st, 2012, 8:54 pm

i used the rudder elavator variant as a point that any aircraft that carries a spectrum reciever has a built in failsafe that has to be activated by CAA rules and regs, this goes for any size of model that has a 2.4 fitted (thinks, does futaba have a FS fitted as specky?) looking at the raft of replies :? looks like others either dont fly gliders, arnt interested, or plain dont know :D

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Re: GLIDER FAILSAFES

Postby Simon Willey » May 31st, 2012, 9:35 pm

My third scale 35lbs ASK13 has air brakes set fully on and controls to neutral. Also tow release released
When the air brakes are on it has a nose down attitude so this is what I have set the failsafe to. It certainly wont want to climb with the air brakes deployed.
The FRsky Rxs failsafe's on all channels .
Once I had trimmed the glider out I reset the failsafe.
I felt this is the best I could do.

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Re: GLIDER FAILSAFES

Postby John Greenfield » June 1st, 2012, 6:49 am

Alan

Can't help you with just Rudder / Elevator types but as I guess that the model(s) in question are under 7 kg and therefore the CAA requirement re failsafe’s is not applicable I can only suggest you contact the BMFA for clarification as it was they who made the rule re failsaf’es on ALL models.

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Re: GLIDER FAILSAFES

Postby Chris Bradbury » June 1st, 2012, 12:08 pm

John Greenfield wrote:I guess that the model(s) in question are under 7 kg and therefore the CAA requirement re failsafe’s is not applicable


A word of caution here as many people don't realise this, although you must fit a fail safe to any model over 7kg regardless of radio being used, if you are using a radio where a failsafe can be set e.g. all the new 2.4ghz systems, then it's a requirement to have the failsafe set regardless of size or weight.
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Re: GLIDER FAILSAFES

Postby Rob Buckley » June 1st, 2012, 2:30 pm

The requirement to have the failsafe set if fitted to models under 7Kg only applies to powered models - there is no requirement for gliders.

Although that said, it would be a good idea to set the failsafe of any glider to stop the model flying away & into the windscreen / engine of a passing airliner. Full up & full right on a rudder / elevator model should dethermal it nicely (or full up & left in the southern hemisphere).
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Re: GLIDER FAILSAFES

Postby Alan Cantwell 1131 » June 1st, 2012, 3:43 pm

interesting one that, it was my thoughts that if any model had a fail safe receiver, then it had to be set, Hmm, more enquiring to be done, me thinks


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