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reed falcon

Posted: June 27th, 2014, 8:01 pm
by richard armstrong
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my latest purchase for a song, for a 60cc motor

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Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 27th, 2014, 8:09 pm
by Alan Cantwell 1131
Nice, details are?

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 27th, 2014, 11:00 pm
by richard armstrong
Alan Cantwell 1131 wrote:Nice, details are?


REED FALCON – Radio Controlled Bi Plane Airframe – Designed by Ken Bonnema. The model measures 72” wingspan by 67” long ( not including the spinner ) and stands 24” high...

got at a very decent price, on ebay, to be a winter project, put a powerful 60cc engine, kit her out and then hang on for 1-2 seasons, not sure if should put a smoke kit in her,

she been naked and never finished , did have a 3w60i in but that sold separately , needs a makeover and colour scheme, electrics, engine, tail wheel, want to cover her not in solortex but in a lighter material, can't remember the name, same stuff on Steve ricketts plane?, need to get hold of a trial pack so i can test and experiment and get an ideal of how to apply the covering,

i will not skimp on servos, 10kg all round 6v, digital or analogue? 1 standard for engine

then get here tested next year with the help of a pro pilot,

only 3 more aircraft to get dc3, 104" texan/harvard, 104" chipmunk and then my hanger is full

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 28th, 2014, 4:13 pm
by Stuart Solomon
try 'DIATEX' for the covering, loads of different weights available and it comes 60" wide

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 28th, 2014, 4:58 pm
by richard armstrong
Stuart Solomon wrote:try 'DIATEX' for the covering, loads of different weights available and it comes 60" wide


thats the suff

any websites please

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 28th, 2014, 5:14 pm
by richard armstrong
diatex

anyone got a small sample for me to try out the process or someone teach me

or is there a video out there on the tube

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 28th, 2014, 5:30 pm
by Alan Cantwell 1131
1000 grade, non shrinking dope, both for adhesion, shrink with heat, then dope, sure you want to do this?,

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 28th, 2014, 5:36 pm
by richard armstrong
Alan Cantwell 1131 wrote:1000 grade, non shrinking dope, both for adhesion, shrink with heat, then dope, sure you want to do this?,


its cheaper that solartex and lighter, application is different, but i willing to learn new techniques,

do you dope then spay paint

or paint then dope?

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 28th, 2014, 9:18 pm
by David Whiteley
Richard,
Have a look at :-

http://www.sky-craft.co.uk/acatalog/Skycraft_Home_Builder_Permit_Aircraft_Coverings_Diatex.html

This is a site that supplies stuff for 100% scale human carrying aircraft. It contains lots of useful info.

Dave

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 28th, 2014, 9:56 pm
by Alan Cantwell 1131
richard, thats a tad like doing the gloss hefore the undercoat on your house, adhere with dope, apply with heat, dope to seal, then paint, basically

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 28th, 2014, 11:13 pm
by richard armstrong
Alan Cantwell 1131 wrote:richard, thats a tad like doing the gloss hefore the undercoat on your house, adhere with dope, apply with heat, dope to seal, then paint, basically


thanks alan, for the comments!

learning curve here!

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 29th, 2014, 8:57 pm
by Phil Clark
Don't bank on Diatex + adhesive & multiple coats of dope being lighter than Tex.

It's longer lasting but a much more labour intensive process. You have A LOT of surface area there so it'd be worth doing some weight comparisons before committing to the Diatex process.

Phil

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 29th, 2014, 10:39 pm
by richard armstrong
thanks phil

weighing up my options will not know till august, when i collect here

but any suggestions for what to use, are welcome

base for this will be white

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 30th, 2014, 3:06 pm
by Bob Thompson1894
Richard- I sense a great deal of 'running before you can walk' here. I believe you have a Greenly, put a cooking motor about 26cc in that, learn to cover it (using Solatex, as it is easy to do) then ask someone to teach you to fly that properly before you spend any more money on more and more models that you will not be able to handle for some years. Until you have the experience of fitting out and setting up models and engines, keep it simple and user friendly. The comment about dope and paint shows you have not researched coverings and have no experience. Start simple, and read as much as you can on the subject. Leave the complex models for later.

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 30th, 2014, 6:35 pm
by richard armstrong
when someone offers you a gift horse you don't kick it in the nuts, bob

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 30th, 2014, 7:01 pm
by Bob Thompson1894
Then put it away until such time as you can do it justice. Start at the beginning and work your way through. There are no shortcuts, and you have to learn as you go. Experience is everything.

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 30th, 2014, 7:05 pm
by richard armstrong
Bob Thompson1894 wrote:Then put it away until such time as you can do it justice. Start at the beginning and work your way through. There are no shortcuts, and you have to learn as you go. Experience is everything.



true bob

like said on the above post bob a winter project

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 30th, 2014, 7:14 pm
by Bob Thompson1894
yep. Winter 2020.......

Re: reed falcon

Posted: June 30th, 2014, 7:25 pm
by richard armstrong
Bob Thompson1894 wrote:yep. Winter 2020.......



lol, yep bob, maybe then may be sooner you will never know

Re: reed falcon

Posted: July 2nd, 2014, 11:24 am
by richard armstrong
after a very helpul LMA member has explained how diatex is applied and the amount of work involved i have decided to stick to profilm or solortex, or HK versions of profilm

hobbyking UK have started to sell rolls that are similar to profilm @ £6 for a 5m roll, i going to experiment, with all 3 versons to seen what the differences are?

but we will see

so back to the 26cc coop first,to get that ready for testing!