1/6 B-26B Marauder

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby John Greenfield » July 29th, 2010, 6:28 am

Phil

I would love to know exactly how you built that throttle unit. this is an area of modelling I always struggle with and fully detailed advice is so hard to come by. All builders usually say is that it was made from bits from the scrap box. Maybe I do not have enough imagination or I have the wrong scrap box but to understand exactly what you used for each part would be a great help to us mear mortals.

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Dave Parry » July 29th, 2010, 6:30 am

Stunning Phil, thanks for sharing this build with us, I have been watching with interest, you should do a video on one of your builds I am sure it would be of great interest to many.

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Phil Clark » July 29th, 2010, 8:11 am

John Greenfield wrote:Phil

I would love to know exactly how you built that throttle unit. this is an area of modelling I always struggle with and fully detailed advice is so hard to come by. All builders usually say is that it was made from bits from the scrap box. Maybe I do not have enough imagination or I have the wrong scrap box but to understand exactly what you used for each part would be a great help to us mear mortals.

Best regards

John


Hi John

It honestly is pretty straight forward when you approach it from the right direction, but when people who maybe haven't tackled this sort of detail before see a finished product, they often think 'where the h**l do I start'?

You have to cut these parts right back to basics and start with the base forms rather than starting to try and build the finished forms straight away......if you break even the most complex items down into simple boxes, spheres, tubes etc etc...it becomes a whole lot easier. The photo of the gun sight below (not for this model) shows this well how even this complex part has been broken down into much simpler base forms and built up part by part.

The throttle console is built around a simple 1/8" balsa 'box'.........this is proportioned of various archive photos and drawings from a selection of books.....this is where a good library comes in handy as you can never have too many reference materials. I have the majority of good published on the B-26, many showing interior shots, but some are contradictory as many photos are from many different angles so it's hard to get an accurate idea of the exact shape.......so you have to add all these together and produce a shape that averages out all of the possible inaccuracies.

Once the box is formed, it’s skinned in 0.5mm styrene sheet (boned with green ZAP after a light key), this gives a nice smooth 'paint ready' surface, but one that’s easy to bond other bits to with liquid poly (plastic modellers glue)

The 'slots' where the various levers project from are not cut into this face...a 2nd skin is added where these slots are cut into.....far easier to cut slots on a flat piece of styrene on a cutting mat that trying to accurately & neatly cut them on a curved surface. This does take a little plotting to get the slots the right length though.

The toggles switches were next........these are basically styrene rod with the ends rounded over bonded into holes drilled into the styrene/balsa.........all this stuff is available from any model shop that’s into plastics or railway modelling (Evergreen is one of the main trade names). The 'guards' for some of the switches are formed litho. Fiddly to make....parts are normally held in a pair of tweezers when being spared. The large mag switch assembly on the centre is again made up from multiple sections of styrene bit by bit to form the final piece.

The larger rotary switches are made up from 3 pieces...the centre is a styrene tube (with the end filled in with cyano), the 2 outer pieces are 1mm styrene sheet cut to shape and bonded with liquid poly (the one rotary switch is actually made from 3 individual pieces). Fiddly yes, but it’s the only way to do it unless you want to make a master, take a silicone mould and cast a batch in resin (pointless if you only have 4/5 to make)

The ball ended throttle levers are from plastic ended dress making pins. The 'thickness' to the lever is added in styrene sheet bonded to the shaft of the pin......the liquid poly basically melts the edge of the styrene, forming it against the sheet pin to for one piece (the joint is difficult to see once painted)

The smaller 'block' are produced from Chemiwood.......this is a solid, grain free resin material used in the commercial model making industry. We sell this in 6" x 4" x 2" blocks that weight a little over 500g, so it is quite heavy stuff.....but in small pieces like this, it's weight is minimal. Being grain free, it doesn't split, doesn't require sealing prior to paint, and rubs down to a nice smooth finish very easily. Being quite dense, you can cut it with machine & hand tools, machine it in a lathe/mill, drill it, tap it, even hand carve it.......it's fantastic stuff for those smaller parts that you once would have made from balsa and had to be careful to prevent them splitting and seal them multiple times prior to paint. (This is also the greeny stuff use in the gun sight) Details of it can be found on our website here..............

http://www.sacarr.co.uk/fighteraces/building/chemiwood.htm

Once the basic assembly is complete, being plastic, an etch primer is used prior to colour coat. We used U-Pol Acid Etch #8 in an aerosol can (Halfords & the like sell it)...once coat of this gets a good bond to the styrene and prevents paint from cracking/chipping in the future (good for small metal parts as well).

Hope that helps?

Phil
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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby John Greenfield » July 30th, 2010, 6:24 am

Phil

That has to be the best reply to a question that I have ever seen on a forum. Thank you for taking the time to respond. I am sure there are many who will benifit from your descriptions of the individual details. The styrene sheet over the basic box structures sounds like a great idea ao I am off to raid the Evergreen stand at my local model shop.

This just proves in this hobby that you are never to old to learn new tricks.

Just one more question regarding the throttle levers. Is the styrene sheet stuck to the front and back of the pin shaft or on both sides of the shaft and what thickness sheet did you use for this.

Thanks again.

John

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Phil Clark » July 30th, 2010, 8:11 am

Hi John

In this case.....just to one side.......you'd tailor the method depending on the scale of the project. This is only 1/6 so trying to add a strip down either side of the pin shaft isn't really necessary, 1 side gives a good enough impression (plus the parts would be VERY skinny). At a bigger scale, the size obviously increases, so you can go down both sides (if you can find pins with big enough heads that is!!!) As for the thickness.......to match the pin basically.....so about 0.4 - 0.5mm here.

For styrene sheet.......don't buy Evergreen, only use them for the preformed sections. Get down to your local vacforming/industrial plastics supplier........we can buy 4ft x 2ft sheets of styrene in 3-4 different thicknesses for a fraction of the cost of a pack of Evergreen sheet.

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Phil Clark » July 31st, 2010, 11:04 am

All cockpit internals are now painted up & suitable distressed (mainly silver dry brushing)........tail gun turret assembly is not far behind.
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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby John Greenfield » August 2nd, 2010, 6:37 am

Phil

Thanks for the extra info. I think I have made it easy for myself as my model is a 1/2 scale Tiger Moth. Took loads of pics of Tiger Moth cockpits at the VGC rally over the weekend. It is amazing how many different variatyions there are on cockpit layonuts on Tiger Moths.

Happy building.

John

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Phil Clark » August 17th, 2010, 9:36 pm

Been a while since the last update....plenty happening though.

Rear & top turret assembly complete & glazing fitted. Same with the cockpit interior and canopy glazing. Framing masked in the picture below ready to be reverse masked to cover over the glazed areas ready for etch priming.
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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Phil Clark » August 17th, 2010, 9:38 pm

Rear end plus cockpit canopy detailed & in silver base coat................
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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Phil Clark » August 17th, 2010, 9:50 pm

Time for some paint........

Flak Bait was a VERY tired airframe, 202 operational sorties took their toll, and to say the paintwork was 'tatty' was an understatement. The 2 black & white photos below show her right at the end of her operational career.......in some places, there is more aluminium showing than Olive Drab.......

We've modelled 'weathered' aircraft many times in the past, but never anything to this extend. The distressing of paintwork has always been done by lightly abrading the top coat paint to reveal the silver base coat below.....this has been done with fine grade wire wool, abrasive fabric flatting pads and fine wet & dry. This method is fine for areas that have been 'worn' through (eg:- wing roots where crew has scuffed the paint away)....but it never produced an effecting 'chipped' look.

The photos chearly show chipping at random places all over the airframe, not just where the surface has been 'rubbed' by whatever method. Chipping like this is caused by wear & tear,vibration and constant subjection to Flak bursts etc.....

Also note the 'faded' appearance of all the fabric covered surfaces (paint on fabric fades faster than paint on metal when sudjected to UV light). Also, the st/bd horizontal stab appears 'aluminium' compared to the O/D on the port side. The st/bd elevator is a lot darker than the port.......conclusion?....the st/bd assembly must be a replacement for the damaged original that has been taken form a more modern (younger) airfame that wasn't painted O/D. This feature will also be replicated.
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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Phil Clark » August 17th, 2010, 9:57 pm

How to stop paint sticking = Vaseline.

Wherever we wanted paint to chip off, Vaseline was stipped on with a course brush..........top coat paint is then applied and left to dry before the Vaseline/paint is scraped off with a sliver of proskin leaving a crisp chipped egde. To remove the grease, panel wipe is used on soft cloths to wash the surface multiple times before a final rub with fine grade wire wool which has the effect of 'streaking' the paintwork. This is done in airflow direction on the flying surface, but 'up/down' on the fuz as this streaking is generally caused by water running down the surface when the aircraft is on the ground.

Other than the main nose artwork, we're almost complete on all of the markings as well (paint masks from Flightline Graphics)......so another update to follow when all paintwork is complete.

Phil
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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Ken Bones » August 18th, 2010, 8:08 am

Hi Phil, you should have just left it out in the rain mate, that worked well with the DC3 :twisted:
Great work, will we be seeing this before it gets shipped?

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Phil Clark » August 18th, 2010, 8:11 am

Cheers Ken

Unlikely anyone will see this one though....it'll be shipping out to the USA somewhere around 10th September.

Phil

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Ken Bones » August 19th, 2010, 7:29 am

Thats a shame Phil, I would love to have seen this one in the flesh.

Bonzey.

What happend to the DC3?

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Phil Clark » August 19th, 2010, 8:14 am

Hopefully there will be plenty of photos and video as I'm following her out to the US a couple of weeks later to attend 'Warbirds over the Rockies' in Denver, Colorado.

The C-47 (it was American!!) was sold to a guy near York about 2 1/2 years ago.....as far as I know, it hasn't been flown since.

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Peter Latham » August 19th, 2010, 10:38 am

Phil,
You deserve a medal for the skill, imagination, research and detail amply illustrated by your building this model.
I only hope that your customer across THE POND will also appreciate your outstanding capabilities.
All the very best for the future.
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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Phil Clark » August 20th, 2010, 10:01 pm

Thanks peter.............

Paintwork is all now complete.......just a 'wash' to add some dirt and we're ready for final clear coat. I'm off for 10 days now to a Warbird meeting in Norway with the rest of the Fighteraces guys, so nothing will be happening now until 2nd September at the earliest.................

Cheers

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Mike Booth » August 20th, 2010, 11:32 pm

Spot on Phil.
My 2p's worth , methylated spirit, great for bleaching most paint where needed.

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Phil Clark » August 21st, 2010, 7:30 am

Thanks Mike......I'll give that a try....never used that method before.

Phil

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Re: 1/6 B-26B Marauder

Postby Phil Clark » September 5th, 2010, 6:26 pm

Back to it after our trip over to Norway from 'Warbird Weekend' 2010 in Trondheim..................
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